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A Virtual Wake in Honor of Ginny Heinlein
Saturday 01-18-2003 9:00 P.M. EST Here Begins The Log


You have just entered room "The Lanai."

SubCrid Death: Hola

DennEditor: Hello newcomers.

AGlusone: Always hard to know. Her friend who wrote had been visiting daily and giving some of us a nightly e-mail and altho it wasn't terribly bleak, there were the problems you might expect with recovery from a broken hip ...

AGlusone: We were guardedly optimistic.

SubCrid Death: Not quite that "newcommer". :) (Dan Poore/Nohbody from AFH)

OscagneTX has entered the room.

Musiquelle26: It hit me pretty hard this morning. She was one of the few people connected to the literary world that I felt was not above themselves.

OscagneTX: howdy

aggirlj: Hi there.

Musiquelle26: hey

Dehede011: Hi

AGlusone: She was a very warm person once she decided to be less than formal. Very quick, very bright, and often very amusing to talk to.

AGlusone: And it was always evident that she sorely missed Robert.

Dehede011: What was it she called him once, "Serene."

AGlusone: She was also very, very generous.

Dehede011: How I would have liked to be a fly on the wall during one of their serious discussions

AGlusone: Actually, I got the feeling they liked to play.

Musiquelle26: She always emailed me on his birthday, even when I switched screennames...that impressed me.

aggirlj: Sounds perfect, I imagine Ginny kept a lot of humor going.

AGlusone: Very happy to be in each other's company.

Dehede011: With words, ideas etc

Musiquelle26: It takes care about the fans to do that

siannon secundus has entered the room.

siannon secundus: Hello everyone

DennEditor: She kept him alive for so long ... how many books would we have never had to read if she had not been there?

aggirlj: Hi.

Musiquelle26: aloha

Dehede011: Oh, since about 1951 I believe

Dehede011: bye

aggirlj: Ron going?

Musiquelle26: Aloha means hello and good bye, I was greeting in turn

Dehede011: NOpe Musiquelle, I believe

aggirlj: Right, never mind.

Musiquelle26: lol

Dehede011: I had forgotten that. It also means I love you

aggirlj: Really

Musiquelle26: and a sharing of hospitality

Musiquelle26: that reminds me of a research project I keep putting off

Dehede011: Yes, when I was in Navy boot camp a buddy of mine and his girl friend had both joined the Navy

Dehede011: He didn't have much money so he telegraphed the poor girl, "Aloha."

AGlusone: Hi, Jani

Musiquelle26: looking into the Kingdom of Hawaii movement...learned of it thru Nat'l Geo

AGlusone: early installment of wake

Dehede011: He thought he was being very clever in saying I love you -- I thought she probably wondered what the heck

aggirlj: Sounds about right, my reaction too.

siannon secundus: Hi David, I just dropped in to see if anyone was here yet.. may not be around later

aggirlj: I've got to put a roast in the oven but I'm staying right here, brb.

AGlusone: We'll welcome you anyway, Jani, and I'll pass on your regrets later.

AGlusone: Best to Stephen

Dehede011: A friend on another list emailed to say NASA just announced a dash to Mars -- 2 months, 1 astronaut

aggirlj: What timing!

AGlusone: the nuclear rocket is the new that impressed me

Dehede011: Right, that sounds like the one

siannon secundus: Thanks David - Stephen sends condolences, by the way, we've just posted to the ng

AGlusone: about time

DennEditor: By 2010, I believe ...

AGlusone: Yes, just read it.

Dehede011: But David, you are an attorney, think of the possible thinking behind that one.

AGlusone: Yeah.

DennEditor: ... once reactionary Greens hear the word "nuclear" they will start to complain about poluting outerspace ...

AGlusone: Bush ain't serious, so he told NASA to say the scare word, "Nuclear" and expects Congress critters to go bananas

Dehede011: NASA plans two-month manned dash to Mars - theage.com.au

Dehede011: Now, they will forget Iraq

AGlusone: fat chance'

DennEditor: Iraq is toast ... it's just a matter of time

DennEditor: ... but this isn't the place to discuss politics/war ...

Dehede011: I agree

AGlusone: Well, spousal overlord unit has ordered me to get a couple hours of rest before the wake so she doesn't find me laying on the floor when she gets home ... so I'm going to be afk for a bit. If someone wants to log if I sign off ..

AGlusone: and email it to ... I'll see it gets in whatever we decide to publish of the wake.

Dehede011: Hey David, thanks a lot

DennEditor: I also must cook dinner ....

DennEditor: so brb

DennEditor has left the room.

Musiquelle26: I'll stop back in a bit

AGlusone: afk and may sign off to rest the putor

Musiquelle26 has left the room.

OscagneTX has left the room. pattyannbond has left the room.

siannon secundus has left the room.

AGlusone: Nite Lisa, stop back if you have time.

AGlusone: Jane, Ron, Don see u all

AGlusone has left the room.

OscagneTX has entered the room.

Dehede011: see you

Dehede011: Yes, we have one hour before the wake begins

Dehede011: anyone still here

Lucylou98: oops, sorry but I was checking dinner...

Lucylou98: Will be back shortly

Dehede011: I am hoping my son brings mine home -- I made him a dinner last night that was so good he thought it was his birthday

Dehede011: bye then

Dehede011: brb making tea

aggirlj: I'm baaaack.

SubCrid Death: Heh, I'm just waiting on the other half of the rent-payment source to bring home dinner from Long John Silvers... I'm a lazy cuss. ;)

Dehede011: Hi, aggirl

Dehede011: I haven't had a LJS dinner for five or ten years

aggirlj: They have Captain D's here.

Dehede011: My wife was an excellent cook -- then she left and I gradually found out I prefer my own cooking. LOL

aggirlj: Understandable.

Dehede011: As a result I don't eat out much. Excepting -- I have a little neighborhood Chinese restauran

Dehede011: Really, when you cook it yourself you make it the way you like best

aggirlj: There are a few here but not that great. What I like is more exotic fare, Tai, and such.

Dehede011: The owner is an excellent chef and a pretty good painter (Chinese style art) to boot

Dehede011: I like Tai

Dehede011: A bit hot but delicious

aggirlj: Some Cantonese was. Story: Eating with large group, everyone talking,brown thingy on plate, long, ask someone if it's edible, glance over sure,eat it. They're running out of the kitchen to see what the problem was,very hot.

Dehede011: What I have never tried and want to is a moderately hot Indian Curry

Dehede011: ga

aggirlj: Schecwan???

Dehede011: Yes, some of that is spicy

Dehede011: The owner of my local restaurant has a cute wife. I have known them for about 15 years

SubCrid Death: I'm an annoyingly picky SOB when it comes to food, for the most part. A majority of veggies are right out (fast food fries don't count as food, let alone vegetables :P ), as are many fruits.

aggirlj: I'll eat just about anything if it's not dog or cat. Nice to know the owners, get all kinds of goodies then.

Dehede011: I just will tease her by pulling one of those short reddish brown peppers out of my food and eating it

aggirlj: Sounds close to the one I got.

Dehede011: However usually I do this after I have plenty in my stomach and only with half a pepper

aggirlj: Had my first soft shell crab at a Sushi place that someone knew the owner.

aggirlj: Cooked, not raw, thank you.

Dehede011: One day I forgot and teased her with a full one while my stomach was still empty

aggirlj: Ron you are located where?

Dehede011: That was six months ago and I am still making sure my stomach is healed before dipping into the hot food again

Dehede011: Chicago

Dehede011: Skokie actually

aggirlj: Okay. Been to the Southwest?

Dehede011: Corpus Christi and Houston

aggirlj: Okay, so you know about their chilis.

Dehede011: Love Mexican if authetic

Dehede011: Right

Dehede011: And I don't touch them. LOL

aggirlj: Came from SoCal, first encounter with Tex-Mex, not a pretty picture.

Dehede011: I once visited an indian settlement in Iowa with an indian buddy. His drunk brother in law had me in a corner and dared me to eat peppers with him

Dehede011: I did not deem it wise to lose the challenge. When we ran out of peppers he asked for bread

Dehede011: I grandly said I didn't need any

Dehede011: This was on a Saturday night -- it was Thursday noon before anyone would come in my office and stay

aggirlj: Had to check the roast, reading what I missed.

Dehede011: The green mist brought tears to their eyes

Dehede011: LOL

aggirlj: :-D

aggirlj: Aromatic you say.

Dehede011: It has been described as "Massive Gastric Disturbances"

aggirlj: My dad used to eat those yellow little ones, sweat would break out under his eyes.

Dehede011: Yes,

Dehede011: Funny thing is that if I am left alone I rarely eat peppers

aggirlj: David likes it pretty hot. But as you gain more "experience" your system cannot tolerate as they used to.

Dehede011: I pick them out of my Chinese food -- that is why I always have one to tease the Chinese lady

aggirlj: I think we're hogging the conversation or others are away for now.

Dehede011: I think they are distracted by the scintillating wit of our conversation -- or something

aggirlj: My mother's family came from Kenosha, love Chicago, worked in Gin Jointsas a singer/dancer for mobsters. She's the one we had the wake for a fewyears ago.

Dehede011: Oh yes, Dave spoke of her once

Dehede011: That is a rough life

aggirlj: Actually they called her "the hay shaker." Very naive and was treated very nicely by those mobsters.

TreetopAngelRN2 has entered the room.

aggirlj: Hi Elizabeth.

OscagneTX: howdy, E.

Dehede011: During my drinking days I spent a lot of time in bars. You take those waitresses just like anyone else -- one at a time

TreetopAngelRN2: Morning, everyone!

Dehede011: Hi Elizabeth

SubCrid Death: Hiya E

Dehede011: Dang, they woke up.

TreetopAngelRN2: I won't be able to make it tonight...

SubCrid Death: I'm not dead, just resting. ;)

aggirlj: Not a good day E. We're pre waking it.

TreetopAngelRN2: Okay, I just wanted to come on in

Dehede011: In St. Louis I used to know a lot of guys that were more or less small time professional thieves

TreetopAngelRN2: Sub Crid, are your feet nailed to the bar???

Dehede011: I would make it plain right off that I kept no secrets. Then we got along beautifully

SubCrid Death: *looks down* Not that I can tell... (Dan Poore, BTW. "Dan" will work in a pinch. :) )

aggirlj: They're just like all of us, a little skewered.

TreetopAngelRN2: Just wondering Dan, since you were just resting...:-D

SubCrid Death: hehe

Dehede011: Hey aggirlj, did we ever decide whether or not

TreetopAngel got a designated memorial bar stool or not?

SubCrid Death: (Truthfully, I've watched very little MP. All I know is snippets mentioned online.)

aggirlj: Not yet, let's vote on it. Mine's over by the Grand Marnier.

TreetopAngelRN2: HUH?? What you talkin' bout Ron?

Dehede011: You one of those that like to wander up and down, eh?

aggirlj: Yeah, glad handing it all around.

Dehede011: Well, you are a regular here and just as good as the rest of us. LOL

TreetopAngelRN2: I am a people watcher or like being behind the bar

aggirlj: It's called the Polo Lounge Syndrom.

Dehede011: I used to stick close to my place but was reknowned for switching drinks

TreetopAngelRN2: LOL!

Dehede011: I went into the bar one night and ran into an old girl friend with one of her girl friends

aggirlj: From Jollywood, Beverly Hills Hotel.

aggirlj: and.....

Dehede011: The girl friend watched me for a while and asked, "Do you never stick to the same drink?"

Dehede011: My old GF said honey he don't stick to nothing

TreetopAngelRN2: that way you get to taste everything!

aggirlj: Bit of a rounder you say.

TreetopAngelRN2: LOL!!

Dehede011: only that was nothing

TreetopAngelRN2: there's more???

Dehede011: For about 7 or 8 years and then one day the music stopped

TreetopAngelRN2: What was her name?

Dehede011: I came out of the bars with one permanent liking

Dehede011: I can't remember except that I suddenly decided it was over

Dehede011: Kathy

TreetopAngelRN2: 8-)

aggirlj: Are those glasses E?

Dehede011: I like to dance -- I did ballroom dancing for awhile and want to go back to that permanently

TreetopAngelRN2: Yeah, Jane!

Dehede011: But I can do that sober

aggirlj: Ohhhhh. My fantasy, beautiful gown on dancing in Austria in huge ballroom, man in uniform.

Dehede011: Oh yeah, a beautiful waltz.

aggirlj: Exactly!

Dehede011: The sexiest thing is to dance a swing with an attractive lady

Dehede011: That dance contains all the elements, if done well together, to be good lovers together

TreetopAngelRN2: I never had that dream, Jane...would prefer,, you guessed it, a big flashy restaurant with good FOOD!

aggirlj: Swing dancing is an acquired talent. I've done B-Bop on down to the present with exception of that smashing thing.

OscagneTX: Personal Impact Time: Off and on since the Reader Group got me into AIM, I'd been looking through the huge font list for a font Mrs. H could read easily (with her eyesight).

SubCrid Death: *looks in his closet for his USN uniform as soon as he hears about Jane's fantasy* :D

OscagneTX: I just caught myself doing it again, and realized that I don't need to anymore.

Dehede011: It is a blast to watch the partners face and see the moment she realises that

aggirlj: :-D

TreetopAngelRN2: It's okay Osc, she can see everything now!

Dehede011: I like to wear my black tux with black and white accessories.

aggirlj: And she's with RAH.

aggirlj: Sounds really sharp.

TreetopAngelRN2: And she thanks you for the thought!

SubCrid Death: Heaven must have some obscene (*ahem*) bandwidth, too. ;)

OscagneTX: <grin> thanks.

Dehede011: Hey, my son brought my dinner. I will stay on chat but I am toning it down for a few minutes.

aggirlj: Gotta check the roast, brb.

SubCrid Death: <- eating dinner at his computer, plate on his lap.

TreetopAngelRN2: sitting in her P.J.'s thinking about getting ready for work!

SubCrid Death: Work? Wassat? ;)

TreetopAngelRN2: that place I live at while awake...

aggirlj: Uhmmmmm good smells.

SubCrid Death: (With how little pay and hours I get, it's almost like being unemployed...)

aggirlj: You and me boyo. Been a rough one.

aggirlj: But 'tis gonna' get better. I can only go up.

SubCrid Death: I'm a pessimistic cynic. Every time I think I hit rock-bottom, something comes along to prove me wrong. :P

TreetopAngelRN2: I better get running...I'll wave a bottle of rubbing alcohol in the air about 9PM my time in Remembrance...and give hugs to my patient who is on her way out!

SubCrid Death: G'night, E, and good luck at work.

aggirlj: See ya' Elizabeth, we'll be toasting about the same

time.

TreetopAngelRN2: G'night everyone

TreetopAngelRN2 has left the room.

aggirlj: She's a lot of fun. Not many ladies in this group which is not bad for the ones here. Like the odds.

Dehede011: nite E

Dehede011: back, but mouth full

aggirlj: Just about 2 hours to the gathering. Don't know if I can hang thatlong. There are some things I've got to do, laundry, and such. So I'llbe going for a bit but be right back around 6:30. See you guys later.

Dehede011: I thought 7 EST

aggirlj: 9:00 EST.

Dehede011: that would be nine minutes

Dehede011: OOPS

aggirlj: That's okay, the mountains used to be on the East for me.

aggirlj: Now they're on the West, somewhat confusing.

Dehede011: Yes, where are you??

aggirlj: CO

aggirlj: Eastern slope.

Dehede011: Like to ski??

aggirlj: Did. Last time I didn't even stretch, spent 1/2 in powder trying to get out first thing and made the day real short.

aggirlj: 1/2 hour.

Dehede011: I have never skied but if you lived in Co that sounded reasonable

aggirlj: It's like living in Las Vegas, most people who "live" there don't gamble.

aggirlj: Lift tickets are very expensive.

Dehede011: Okay, and in Chicago I never go into the loop or Cicero

aggirlj: Have you ever gone to the Greek area for dinner.

Dehede011: 20 years ago. Love greek coffee

SubCrid Death: BTW, for the curious, this is me. Apologies if your monitor breaks because of my picture.

Dehede011: But before I retired I used to hit the North Shore Greek joints with my boss.

aggirlj: Had the Cooks tour from friends who live in Indiana. Love the food. That's what traveling is to me, eating. I plan on going to New Orleansand plopping down at the first Oyster bar and telling them to keep 'em coming.

aggirlj: Very nice.

Dehede011: I did a job in Vicksburg, Miss. That is where me and oysters first got introduced

OscagneTX: afk

Dehede011: My boss and I were drinking buddies and he was Greek.

aggirlj: Have never been to Greece. Somewhat intimidating since I mostly travel by myself.

Dehede011: He was newly remarried and his bride liked to go with him -- she taught me how to pick up girls

Dehede011: LOL

Dehede011: The best approaches I ever heard

aggirlj: Couldn't learn from a better person.

Dehede011: She was cute and had probably heard them all

aggirlj: Yeah. There are all kinds of interesting methods. The best, as faras I'm concerned, is to just be yourself. I know that's done to death, butit works most of the time.

aggirlj: Avoids a lot of empty chatter.

Dehede011: Yes,

OscagneTX: b

Dehede011: and best of all the other person can read your realness

aggirlj: Exactemwha.

Dehede011: To do my best let me meet a woman I am smitten with enough to make me a little nervous and uncertain

aggirlj: Keeps you on your toes.

aggirlj: Puts me in mind of "Getting To Know You" from King & I.

Dehede011: And if that were you, you could read that it was important to me in my eyes

Dehede011: But if I was trying to do a cheap shot you would read that too

aggirlj: Easily.

Dehede011: So, let me meet Miss Wonderful

aggirlj: Ever hopeful as we go along.

Dehede011: True

aggirlj: They, the ambiguous theys, tell me when you're not looking is when you will find it. Hmmmmmm.

Dehede011: BTW, do you know RAH's first words to Ginny

aggirlj: No, tell me.

Dehede011: Lt., your slip is showing.

aggirlj: Cool.

aggirlj: And she blushed.

Dehede011: They were introduced at work during WWII

aggirlj: Was it "love at first sight?

Dehede011: She hurried off to do something about it.

Dehede011: Don't know. It might have been, there are a couple of poems by him, but if so it was a while before they turned the burner up

SubCrid Death: Hmm. Either word hasn't gotten out yet, or none of the news services care. Checking Google News comes up dry for searches on "Virginia Heinlein".

Dehede011: And she indicated she had a social life out of his circle

Dehede011: That is one of the bad things about our male oriented society

aggirlj: Wasn't he married at that time or not?

Dehede011: Yes,

aggirlj: It's got to be on the news somewhere.

Dehede011: They aren't nearly as likely to pick up her death.

aggirlj: Might be here. I'm in Colorado Springs where they lived, local news just starting. Will check.

Dehede011: I'll turn on our news radio

aggirlj: Actually still Network, turning up volume and will check when local comes on.

Dehede011: okay

Dehede011: I wonder if it will make the obits in the print media

aggirlj: Can do both. Guess I'm gonna stay for the long haul here. I'm soglad I met you guys before giving up on chats. David was so generous insending me this computer. . . . . It should.

Dehede011: ga

aggirlj: Okay, not up on all shorthand, ga?

Dehede011: ga go ahead

aggirlj: It should make the print media.

Dehede011: I'll check the Sunday paper later

aggirlj: Got a real rag here, don't subscribe. Way too conservative.

aggirlj: Besides they can never keep it out of my Rose garden.

Dehede011: You prefer your roses?? <G>

aggirlj: Yes staying intact.

Dehede011: Do you have many roses?

SubCrid Death: ABC and CBS's web sites come up dry, NBC doesn't have a search engine.

Dehede011: okay

aggirlj: About 25, all on the front lawn, all the neighbors really enjoy it in the Spring.

SubCrid Death: (And all 3 of the main sites have crappy websites that require JavaShi^H^Hcript. :P )

aggirlj: I'm gonna check our local news webs. Be back.

Dehede011: I have shrubs and Rose of Sharon (spelling??)

Dehede011: bye

aggirlj: Rose of Sharon is glorious.

Dehede011: I usually cut my neighbors some boquets

Dehede011: Nothing on Fox

Dehede011: bouquets

aggirlj: I let neighbors cut "some."

SubCrid Death: "some" wound up being half the garden, didn't it...

Dehede011: As soon as they are coming prime I start getting rid of them. Once they go over the hill I don't like them

aggirlj: Uh hum.

Dehede011: Reminds me of the cotton fields too much

Musiquelle26 has entered the room.

Musiquelle26: Fair eve to those present

aggirlj: Well no web sites in yellow pages.

aggirlj: I'll try browsing.

Dehede011: Cotton grows up beautifully and then has all these pretty flowers. After that everything drops off to litter the ground

Dehede011: Thene the cottom opens and you have to go to work.

Musiquelle26: Southern Snow!

Dehede011: cotton

Dehede011: You got it.

SubCrid Death: Hiya Stephanie ("Steph" alright, or do you prefer the full version? If I don't ask in regards to shortening names I almost always catch heat for it. :P )

Musiquelle26: I'm a Mississippi girl at heart

Musiquelle26: Steph is fine

Dehede011: What town, Steph

Musiquelle26: Or Filly from ages ago

Musiquelle26: Raised between biloxi and Vicksburg, on up to a place called Carrolton

Dehede011: I spent almost a year in Vicksburg on a consulting assignment

Musiquelle26: Most time in Jackson and Pearl, though

SubCrid Death: Heh, when it snowed the other day I was more concerned about missing out on class because evening classes were canceled, and I wasn't the least bit interested in going out to play in the snow. 27 is supposed to be too young for...

SubCrid Death: ... "Old Fart Syndrome", isn't it?

Dehede011: I have been away too long and can't place Pearl

Musiquelle26: I went to the High School where the shootings happened, a decade earlier

Musiquelle26: just outside Jackson

Dehede011: okay, I have been away for 20 years

Musiquelle26: 27 is too old for OFS

Musiquelle26: I am 27 and refuse to give in, or else my kids will drive me insane!

Dehede011: Between the moderns and the unreconstructed racists down there I never knew who I was talking to

Musiquelle26: I did as all my cousins with IQs above 80 did

Musiquelle26: I left, no intention of returning

Dehede011: Went north??

Musiquelle26: North Carolina

Musiquelle26: not teribly better

Musiquelle26: But with more interesting weather

Dehede011: Yeah, I left SE Missouri at the end of my Junior (HS) year. I wanted to get an education

Musiquelle26: I got jipped on that end

Musiquelle26: I left the number one public school and wound up three years ahead of the one I went to here

Dehede011: I think I might like to move to the area around the Cherokee Reservation in Western North Carolina

Musiquelle26: Beautiful place over there

Musiquelle26: I like having mountains and beach so close

SubCrid Death: Hmm... SC/NC border is a few hours north of me. :)

Musiquelle26: I've even gotten used to the exercises at Bragg

Dehede011: I am part Cherokee and that is where my people originally lived. I am not talking about just the Cherokee

Dehede011: but my particular band

Dehede011: The Overhills Cherokee

Musiquelle26: The only rumored Native blood in me is Choctaw...but being Mississippian, no one admits it to me

aggirlj: Can't find a thing in the local news webs.

Dehede011: The old rule of thumb is -- take what you have been told and double it

Musiquelle26: True

aggirlj: Gonna try Gazette Telegraph, that "rag".

Dehede011: My immediate ancestors were also afraid but the last couple of generations are going back with pride

Musiquelle26: I live near the largest settlements of Lumbees, and I have seen pride propel some of them forward on good paths

Dehede011: I get the biggest kick out of my Cherokee fem cousins. They are moderately pretty or cute but they have a shinning womanliness that causes good men to take one look and want to get married

Dehede011: Yes,

Musiquelle26: brb...must allow use of the phone

Musiquelle26 has left the room.

aggirlj: Well only thing in Denver Post is I learned Richard Crenna died today too.

Dehede011: I used to like him

aggirlj: Used to, how come not.

Dehede011: No reason, I got interested in other stuff and quit watching TV

aggirlj: Right. Well, Ron I'm going to go off for a bit. But see you later. Bye.

SubCrid Death: Later, Jane.

Dehede011: I am studying to be a CPA, writing a novel and I am retired. Enough on my plate is enough

aggirlj has left the room.

Dehede011: bye Jane, come back and play with us again

Dehede011: Anyone home??

SubCrid Death: idlish, but here

OscagneTX: me too. ish

Dehede011: Yes, things will get started again in about 90 minutes.

OscagneTX: 've just been "listening" mostly.

Dehede011: I may try that some day. LOL

SubCrid Death: Supposedly, there's talk of a 4th Rambo movie, but so far casual, QnD searches have come up dry. This was heard on IRC, though, so the speaker can be either pulling my leg or repeating a rumor as fact.

Dehede011: Yes, it was on Drudge.

OscagneTX: I'd heard Stallone wanted to do another one... to kill Saddam.

Dehede011: Stilone has the script written, he is taking on Osama bin Laden

Dehede011: Do I have that wrong.

OscagneTX: Right...

OscagneTX: nono... I think it was bin Laden.

OscagneTX: It doesn't really matter. Southpark killed 'em both so far. Multiple times.

Dehede011: The Sun Newspaper Online - UK's biggest selling newspaper

Dehede011: While you are there take a look at the Page Three girl

OscagneTX: garsh.

Dehede011: Is Drudge headline about it being 34 below in NYC accurate?

SubCrid Death: What is the url for DR's site? Google search throws up multiple hits, but not all that sure about which is the real one.

Dehede011: wait one and I will get it for you

Dehede011: DRUDGE REPORT 2002®

Dehede011: Lisa -- Lucylou98 -- said it was cold in her part of the south.

Dehede011: A high pressure zone flows clockwise so if this cold blast came down to the East of Chicago I would be getting air that hit NYC, froze Lisa and then

Lucylou98: hi guys, I'm back with dinner made

Dehede011: came back north

OscagneTX: re

Dehede011: I'll repeat that for Lisa

Dehede011: A high pressure zone flows clockwise so if this cold blast came down to the East of Chicago I would be getting air that hit NYC, froze Lisa and then

Dehede011: came back north

Dehede011: Lisa, please go out in the yard and breath fast. I could use some warm input here

Lucylou98: Well, it did freeze us out here and it's snowing a tiny bit now

Lucylou98: hey! i'm not full of hot air!

Dehede011: What is your approximate temp??

SubCrid Death: Speaking, if indirectly, of the Page 3 girl briefly mentioned by Ron, am I the only one who wishes all these models had more than a total of 5 pounds on their bodies?

OscagneTX: according to http://www.uswx.com/chron/wx/NY/072/ it got down to 6F last night.

Dehede011: Yes, but you are 98.6 and every little bit helps

Lucylou98: 28.6 degrees

SubCrid Death: (In case y'all hadn't noticed, I tend to be a bit "stream of consciousness" about what I say. ;) )

Dehede011: Okay,

Dehede011: No problem, I talk to see what I am thinking

Lucylou98: page 3 girl?

SubCrid Death: I don't think hot air is very useful in fending off cold weather... if it was Washington DC would be a perpetual Sahara. :P

SubCrid Death: human-sourced hot air, that is

Dehede011: Yes, I thought maybe one of the guys knew here. I was referencing a story on the weather from the London Times

Dehede011: knew her.

Dehede011: The London Sun is what I meant

OscagneTX: she's nekkid. Might be cold, but they had that part covered so I couldn't tell.

Dehede011: And they are well known for their page three girls

Lucylou98: sorry, i was on the tele

Dehede011: Yes, you must be from the south. Every Southern boy a nekkid girl has a lot fewer clothes than a nude

Lucylou98: Oscane and subcrid death who are ya'll?

Dehede011: knows a nekkid girl has a lot

SubCrid Death: Heh. As I've heard it (born in N. Illinois, living in SC currently) "nekkid" is nude with intent.

SubCrid Death: <- Dan Poore, from AFH

Dehede011: Dan may I use that upon the innocent

Lucylou98: Where 'bouts in SC?

OscagneTX: <- from Texas. AFH'er, though halfway a lurker.

Lucylou98: and what part of Texas?

SubCrid Death: Just outside of Greenville. NW corner of the state, about 2 hours east of Atlanta.

Dehede011: Besides everyone knows the Poole boys are good at catching footballs

OscagneTX: Houston. Born just north of here, came here for job.

Dehede011: OOPS you said Poore

Lucylou98: Sub, we're nearly neighbors

Dehede011: Sorry

SubCrid Death: heh, yeah. I have just about zero sports talent.

Lucylou98: And my Step-dad lives in Galveston

Lucylou98: works in houston tho

OscagneTX: Galveston is either really nice, or really dirty, depending on where you're finding yourself.

SubCrid Death: "nearly neighbors"? How "nearly"? If you'll pardon my curiosity...

Lucylou98: Alabama nearly

SubCrid Death: Ron, as for using the definition of "nekkid" I heard, feel free. Not mine to start with. :)

Dehede011: Okay, "nekkid with intent." Then first degree nekkid would be nude with serious intent

Dehede011: LO

Dehede011: LOL

Lucylou98: brb

SubCrid Death: hehe

OscagneTX: hehe

Dehede011: That is what I miss about the South. The play with the language

SubCrid Death: Of course there's also the "Cloak of Anarchy" (IIRC on the title) viewpoint. "Nude" is artistic, "naked" is defenseless.

Dehede011: Or I could make that "nekkid." def.: nude and armed with intent.

Dehede011: I still haven't got it. I sometimes write poetry and often can feel when there is a better phrase in my head somewhere.

SubCrid Death: (And I was right, regarding the short story title)

Dehede011: I was ten years old in 1944. I remember the Poole boys and their ability to catch footballs so well

Dehede011: Hey, SC, that is Doc Blanchard's old stomping ground?

Dehede011: After the AF he went back down there and retired

SubCrid Death: If I knew who Doc Blanchard was, I might be able to tell you. (At a guess sports guy, from the context)

Dehede011: Best all around football player that the college level ever saw

Dehede011: He was at West Point and did a career as a AF fighter pilot

SubCrid Death: I don't follow sports, really, beyond occasional glances at the numbers for my old favorite pro teams (none of which have gotten very far of late).

Dehede011: Carolina Panthers??

aggirlj has entered the room.

OscagneTX: re

aggirlj: Hi guys.

SubCrid Death: No, none of the local yokels. Chicago teams comprise most of my favorites. Bears, White Sox, Blackhawks, and Bulls (I never bought that "da bulls" junk, though :P )

Dehede011: Hi Miss Ma'am.

Dehede011: I was the smallest boy on a boxing team in HS and never learned basketball

SubCrid Death: I still consider myself a yankee, just one stranded in Hel^H^H^HDixie.

Dehede011: So in Texas you would only be a damned Yankee in your heart

Dehede011: ??

OscagneTX: nono.... that's "damnyankee". One word.

SubCrid Death: Not being sure of the details of damnyankee, silence is probably my least-bad option.

aggirlj: Ever see the Light Opera with Gwen Verdon?

Dehede011: No in Texas a Damnyankee is one that comes down there. One that intends to stay is a G__ damnyankee

SubCrid Death: (which usually means it's the option not taken... ;) )

OscagneTX: hehe

Dehede011: No, but I was 15 when she was number one on the hit parade

aggirlj: Damn Yankee, movie too with Tab Hunter.

OscagneTX: One of the worst things for a Texan's eyes... a southbound yankee with a U-haul.

Dehede011: with Lola Gets

aggirlj: Yes, what Lola wants.

SubCrid Death: I wound up down here at the end of a parental leash, being all of 15 at the time, and the fundages to head back north hasn't existed for a while.

Dehede011: I dated a girl from Providence, RI when I was in the Navy -- she was not Lola

SubCrid Death: fundage, rather... *eats the "s"*

Dehede011: For you youths Lola was "the ugliest girl in Providence, RI"

aggirlj: Before she hooked up with the Devil.

Dehede011: Right

SubCrid Death: I was guessing the Lola in question wasn't the song one, at least... ;)

aggirlj: It is, came from Damn Yankees.

Dehede011: No, she was a pretty little Irish lady

OscagneTX: Ok... so I've got the first two lines... "There once was a sweet girl from Providence, who was so good she could hide the evidence..."

aggirlj: Way too good for me.

Dehede011: She was a great friend but she badly wanted to get married and I was 19 with places to go

Dehede011: fresh 19 at that

Lucylou98: I'm back and just read some preceeding conversation

aggirlj: Good 'ole Blue Eyes had a great song about that.

Musiquelle26 has entered the room.

Musiquelle26: I have returned!

OscagneTX: rehi

Dehede011: Agg, did you ever hear the old sailor song, "out in the wide world Katie"

aggirlj: No.

Dehede011: Howdy y'all

Lucylou98: Remebered a line from a book: "I'd heard about damnyankees all my life and here I was in a city full of them...

aggirlj: Hi Steph

Dehede011: One of the many things that happens to a sailor

Lucylou98: I was terrified"

OscagneTX: Lucy, sounds like Houston.

Lucylou98: lollol

Dehede011: My ship was standing at the dock and bound for foreign lands

aggirlj: Did a scene from Tennessee Williams playlet about what happens to boys on the town.

Dehede011: I asked her for a goodbye kiss, she said, "Oh no, shake hands."

Dehede011: 2nd verse.

Dehede011: I promised her that I would write, she promised me the same

Dehede011: Somehow my address got lost and she forgot my name

Lucylou98: Oscagne, what do you do in Houston?

OscagneTX: Security, mostly. Goof off. Go to school.

Lucylou98: Where do you attend school...if I may ask?

OscagneTX: Local Comm Col.

OscagneTX: very part time. about 2 classes per semester.

Dehede011: What is your major

Lucylou98: Ah, very good

OscagneTX: general. I'll get an "Asso. of App. Science" at the end of this semester. Then I'll go probably to Sam Houston State for the rest of my degree.

Lucylou98: What do you plan on majoring in?

OscagneTX: I plan on Forensics when I get there. They've got a great Crim. Justice program.

Dehede011: I am retired and aiming for a CPA

Lucylou98: Did I see someone say something nasty about Java earlier?

OscagneTX: A major in Bio or Chem, and then minor in C.J.

OscagneTX: Java is the devil's plaything.

Dehede011: Have you ever done a search on Statement Analysis

Lucylou98: Java is a pretty good language actually

OscagneTX: I know... it's just fun to push programmer's buttons. *ooh, a pun, and unitientional*

Lucylou98: lol

Dehede011: Not by me. Statement Analysis is a tool for criminal interviews

Dehede011: We unconsciously change our grammar when we lie

OscagneTX: I've only done 3 very introductory courses in CJ so far.

OscagneTX: We just barely covered interrogations in my Investigations class.

Dehede011: I mentioned it because I believe it is mostly on line.

OscagneTX: The biggest point drilled into me is "figure out what scares the shit out of the suspect, then lie to him to make him think its true"

Lucylou98: change our grammer in which ways, Ron?

Dehede011: Believe it or not CPAs and Consultants get heavily into some parts of interogating

OscagneTX: of course, you can do the same thing, just make it seem something he *really* wants is coming true.

Dehede011: When you are truthful you tend to use good concrete statements and grammer as you just did

Dehede011: but we shift to the indirect when we lie. "When I turned back around it was gone."

OscagneTX: There's a guy working for HPD whose specialty it is to make pedophiles think that himself, the Police Chief, and the Mayor are all pedophiles, too. Then if he just tells him what's going on they can cover him.

Dehede011: I didn't mention it was gone because I stuck it in my pocket

Dehede011: Jeez isnt that entrapment

Lucylou98: that's interesting

OscagneTX: nope.

Lucylou98: what makes it NOT be entrapment?

Dehede011: And notice I did not deny taking it which an innocent person would have in nice direct grammar EAePtrsdjgr has entered the room.

OscagneTX: There are very specific things you have to do to prove entrapment. One of the things is prove that a person would not be inclined to perp the actual crime if it wasn't offered to him.

Dehede011: Right, it has to be before the crime EAePtrsdjgr has left the room. EAePtrsdjgr has entered the room. EAePtrsdjgr has left the room.

OscagneTX: And the inducement has to be unreasonable. For instance, "Take this stolen car to my chop shop, I'll give you $30" is not entrapment.

Dehede011: Okay

aggirlj: EA has probs getting in or making his/her mind up.

OscagneTX: but, "Take this stolen car to my chop shop, I'll give you $30,000" is entrapment.

aggirlj: Ron, are you in accounting?

Dehede011: Yep

aggirlj: Small world.

Dehede011: studying for the CPA

Dehede011: but not yet an accountant

aggirlj: I think I gave my condolencres a while ago.

aggirlj: condolences. I worked 15 years in PA.

Dehede011: Guess what my teacher in auditing has us reading for interviewing

Lucylou98: tele again

aggirlj: ga

Dehede011: Sherlock Holmes The Sign of the Four

aggirlj: Interesting.

Lucylou98: back

Dehede011: AC Doyle was a genius at interviewing

OscagneTX: I need to read more carefully... I parased that as "my teacher in adultery has us reading"

aggirlj: Plan on working for the IRS?

Dehede011: I have just started but I notice that he has SH starting the interview but keeping absolutely silent as long as the person keeps talking

aggirlj: Worked for a PI for a while. He was pretty good. Very intimidating.

Dehede011: No, I would like to do forensic or as back up Tax Work

aggirlj: Size has something to do with it, he was a big guy.

Dehede011: Yes, my Dad was the same way

aggirlj: Did a lot of auditing. Not much interviewing though, mostly in audit it falls out without any help from anyone.

Dehede011: Dan couldn't understand why at 5 - 09 and a welterweight or middleweight I didn't talk to people like he did

Dehede011: ROFL

aggirlj: Okay, shorthand again, can you translate or is it obscene.

Dehede011: He is teaching a way of taking notes from interviews or from reviewing papers that overlap way over

SubCrid Death: Rolling On the Floor, Laughing

aggirlj: Thanks, I'll remember that.

SubCrid Death: Sometimes the "T" is in there as well, same meaning though.

Dehede011: No, not short hand just how to set up the page

aggirlj: I asked one time and Dee couldn't translate hers.

OscagneTX: You'll also see, ROTFLMAO.

OscagneTX: ...My Ass Off

aggirlj: That's it.

Dehede011: I ain't touching that line with a ten foot pole

Dehede011: LOL

SubCrid Death: Like with most geekish things, it not infrequently winds up extended out to ridiculous extremes.

SubCrid Death: "ROFL" that is

aggirlj: Understand.

Dehede011: Yes, it does. He says modestly

SubCrid Death: Once I saw one that, expanded, was an entire paragraph. TINS

Lucylou98: what are ya'll talking about??

SubCrid Death: (This Is No Sh*t, by the way)

SubCrid Death: The shorthand "ROFL", Lucy.

Dehede011: I don't know Lisa -- I introduced you here but I swear they are normally quite respectable

Lucylou98: ah

aggirlj: Thank, got that one.

Dehede011: Explain it to me??

Lucylou98: whoa! I introdueced myself here long ago...just been incommunicado for some time

SubCrid Death: TINS is how military stories start out, not unlike a fairy tale's "once upon a time".

Dehede011: Are you sure, that was another list

Dehede011: chat

AGlusone has entered the room.

AGlusone: brb

Dehede011: TINS??

Lucylou98: I stumbled into RAH chat way back when it was on aol

aggirlj: brb

SubCrid Death: This Is No Sh*t... like I said about a minute ago. :)

Dehede011: Right and it is still there -- this is LANAI

Musiquelle26: All the real southern boys here say "And this is a true story.."

Dehede011: Oh, no they start, "I met this blonde and........""

Dehede011: Steph, that is only the ones we tell you ladies

Musiquelle26: "Man, I have to tell you what happened last night..."

OscagneTX: redhead, myself. *no suprise, that*

Musiquelle26: I have been one of the guys most of my life

Dehede011: I was in Quonset Point, RI. I met another sailor at the bus stop and we decided to hit Providence

Lucylou98: Sorry Ron, but I stumbled on RAH folks all by myself :)

Dehede011: together

Musiquelle26: so I've heard some to make the Saints cry

OscagneTX: Maybe so... but I have it on reliable authority that the stories ladies tell amongst themselves will curdle cream at 100 yards.

Dehede011: When we got off the bus in Providence some gal came up to us immediately and said she was going to give us something new

OscagneTX: so don't act all shocked... %^)

aggirlj: Osc, you hit it on the head.

Dehede011: The other sailor told me to run like hell, she has leprosy

Lucylou98: Os, not supposed to tell that tho

Dehede011: Do you know the difference between a woman's romance novel and a man's adventure story

aggirlj: Nooooooo

Musiquelle26: More sex in the woman's

Dehede011: Yep, lots more

OscagneTX: WAY more.

aggirlj: :-D

Dehede011: Have you read Diana Balderon

Dehede011: You know how RAH has a knack of really informing you on his subject

Dehede011: She outdoes RAH

Musiquelle26: No, I read some of those serial romances

OscagneTX: You see, when a woman writes like that its "just a healthy imagination", but when men write it it's "filthy pronagraphy, exploitation of the ovarian minority" %^)

Dehede011: No, them babes know what they are talking about

aggirlj: So do like Emily Dickenson.

Dehede011: Steph you might like her.

Lucylou98: Don't think any of that is relevant....

Dehede011: A very high quality serial romance

Dehede011: What isn't relevant, Lisa??

Lucylou98: Men are more visually stimulated while women seem to be more readily stirred by the written word...so to speak..

aggirlj: Definately.

Dehede011: She draws great word pictures

Dehede011: and has a real good grasp of her backstory

Musiquelle26: I read magazines of questionable literary value, among other things to research for writing

Dehede011: What are you finding??

SubCrid Death: With all this talk of writing, I suppose I should continue with working on AMoM...

Lucylou98: All these writers here

Dehede011: I bookmarked that SCD

aggirlj: Marked it Dan.

Lucylou98: are there any other mathematicians in the house?

Dehede011: I am in an odd position as a new writer.

SubCrid Death: Oh, I'd not be so generous as to call my stuff real writing... textual doodles, for the most part. Not "pro" material.

aggirlj: Good lead in.

Musiquelle26: I'm trying to get serious about polishing what Paula and I have written over the last 13 years

Dehede011: I gave up on working titles and just number my stuff Opus 1 and so on in sequence

SubCrid Death: The AMoM site is 2 chapters behind what's been published on the Nexus list (link at the top of the Meeting page), FYI.

OscagneTX: I've been professionally rejected... about 5 times each of 11 stories... %^)

Musiquelle26: "Story One" etc

Lucylou98: There you go, make stories a function of time, ron :)

Dehede011: Opus one died still born, Opus two is complete, I am doing Opus 3 but have decided I don't want Op2 to go out until Op3 etc is sold

SubCrid Death: I aim for updating every 3 written chapters, but that first requires that I get to the end of each 3-chapter set. :P

JNEILSCHUL has entered the room.

AGlusone: Hi, Neil

JNEILSCHUL: Hello

aggirlj: Howdy

Musiquelle26: hey

OscagneTX: howdy.

Dehede011: I liked your interview

JNEILSCHUL: :-)

Dehede011: with RAH

OscagneTX: me too.

JNEILSCHUL: :-) :-)

SubCrid Death: Pardon me, but I'm relatively new to Heinlein... What interview, and who's Neil? :)

aggirlj: Any relation to Charles Schul?

jilyd has entered the room.

Dehede011: Have any of you finished something but felt like it should be sold in a different sequence than it was written

aggirlj: Hi Dee.

Musiquelle26: hey hey lady

AGlusone: G'evenin' Dee

SubCrid Death: Hiya Dee

jilyd: Hi jane, everyone.

JNEILSCHUL: No relation. And "Schul" is short for "Schulman."

Dehede011: Hi yall

aggirlj: Never mind.

aggirlj: Charles Schul actor I knew in LA, working actor.

Dehede011: Neil wrote an excellent interview of RAH

jilyd: I figured, Neil. Good to meet you.

SubCrid Death: I figured out that much, Ron. :)

JNEILSCHUL: Nice to be here. Is this the virtual wake?

Lucylou98: Hi Neil

aggirlj: Yes

Musiquelle26: This is

Dehede011: Okay, I thought I heard a question

SubCrid Death: Will be in a bit, Neil.

AGlusone: this is it. Room filling up. thanks for coming

JNEILSCHUL: Wouldn't have missed it. Ginny is a good friend.

AGlusone: We're about to see how many it will hold I think.

jilyd: SCD, I am supposed to know, but remind me what name I know you by.

SubCrid Death: Dan Poore

aggirlj: Dan.

SubCrid Death: Recent AFH gatecrasher. ;)

jilyd: Thaks, Dan. I failed to put a note on my buddy list.

Dehede011: brb getting iced tea

aggirlj: Checked all the news sources I could, no mention.

Musiquelle26: I could not find it either

jilyd: I got myself a nice glass of merlot--a stemmed tea glass, in fact, and I filled it up, not like red should be served.

KultsiKN has entered the room.

aggirlj: Hi Kultsi.

jilyd: Hi, cutie.

KultsiKN: Good evening all.

AGlusone: Good evening, Kultsi, whatever it is in Finland.

SubCrid Death: Evening, Kultsi

SubCrid Death: I believe "oh-dark-thirty", AG. :)

jilyd: Several people told me they could not make it because of prior commitments, or in one case an older computer that doesn't like AIM.

aggirlj: Elizabeth came earlier, going to toast with a glass of something, Ron?, at about this time.

jilyd: But Jane Davitt, Jim Cunningham, John Tilden, and Nuclear Waste all send warm thoughts.

BJ Maranta has entered the room.

KultsiKN: Many are here anyway.

aggirlj: Hi Brian.

Dehede011: No, it is iced tea -- genuine Baptist Beer.

jilyd: VERY early a.m. for Kultsi. He had to meet us at 0400.

BJ Maranta: Howdy all

KultsiKN: Hello, Brian

jilyd: Hi, Brian.

WJaKe has entered the room.

AGlusone: Good evening, Jake

siannon secundus has entered the room.

WJaKe: Hello all

AGlusone: Good evening, Jani

KultsiKN: Hello, Jake, Jani.

SubCrid Death: I'm afraid I'm gonna be somewhat idlish. Long-distance computer tech support for relatives is fun in the way that an unanesthetized root canal is fun.

siannon secundus: Hello, everyone

Dehede011: Damn, I used to always come in to the chat and look to see if Astyanax or Scientific(??) was here

aggirlj: David knows that one.

AGlusone: SAcademic

Dehede011: Right, I was close

AGlusone: which was a pun on It's Academic

Dehede011: I never used that one

SubCrid Death: (Assume I'm raising a glass at the appropriate

times if I'm not here.)

AGlusone: we will, Dan

jilyd: BTW, Nuke's prior engagement is his wedding anniversary. Seems an appropriate good thought in Ginny and Robert's honor. I wish Jim and Mille well, tonight, too.

QinJingYou has entered the room.

Musiquelle26: My thoughts go to them!

AGlusone: Yoji Kondo asked me to express his regrets, he's looking the stars tonight

aggirlj: Mine too.

BJ Maranta: Hear Hear

AGlusone: deep regrets

OscagneTX: echo

aggirlj: Betcha Ginny's here somehow.

siannon secundus: (jilyd) That's nice.

jilyd: Hi, Jani, I'm Dee.

Dehede011: As she told me when he died, "I think that he is somewhere that he knows ........"

siannon secundus: Hi Dee

georule1861 has entered the room.

WJaKe: wish I had met her.

AGlusone: Hi, Geo

georule1861: Howdy.

siannon secundus: She'll be around for a while yet

aggirlj: Hi George.

DrRufosGlory has entered the room.

jilyd: Ebening, Geo, it's Dee2.

WJaKe: Hi geo (and Deb?)

OscagneTX: howdy

aggirlj: Hi Dr. Rufo.

siannon secundus: It takes a bit to cross over

jilyd: Hi, Doc.

AGlusone: Rufo, good evening

DrRufosGlory: Hi all

georule1861: Deb's working.

DavidWrightSr has entered the room.

BJ Maranta: Evening, Herr Doktor

aggirlj: Hi Sr.

AGlusone: Evenin' Brian

BJ Maranta: Evening, David

jilyd: Geo, do you have Doc Obi-Wan's addy? The old one I had is no longer good.

DavidWrightSr: Hello everyone. Had some trouble getting in.

Musiquelle26: brb...need beverage

BJ Maranta: or, Davids, I guess

georule1861: No Irish in the house, so had to go Italian wake instead. Mondavi.

CHASGRAFT has entered the room.

AGlusone: Hi, Dave. We'll wait for you, Stephanie. Let us know when you get back. Good evenin' Charles

jilyd: BC, hello. Dee2 here.

aggirlj: Hi Charles is it?

WJaKe: Hey Charlie!

jilyd: Charles, or Big Charlie (BC)

aggirlj: Thanks.

siannon secundus: I don't know half of these nyms *g

CHASGRAFT: Yes, it is. Coming to you from Oklahoma. Probably can't stay long.

jilyd: Wjake, haven;t seen you in too long!

aggirlj: <----Jane

CHASGRAFT: Either BC or Charlie.

jilyd: Oklahoma? What happened to Indianapolis?

siannon secundus: I know Jane, and Dee, and Kultsi, and the

Davids

WJaKe: Hi Dee, Jane

DavidWrightSr has left the room.

WJaKe: lots of screennames I don't know!

BJ Maranta: Sorry folks, have to step afk for a couple mins...

CHASGRAFT: Just visiting. USPS technical school.

georule1861: I'm Geo Rule, husband to Deb. We run two RAH sites, one at www.dahoudek.com and one at www.robertaheinlein.com.

jilyd: Some folks from the Heinlien Forum are new to you Jani. We go back to the old Prodigy HF.

Engr Bohn has entered the room.

CHASGRAFT: Warmer here than in Indy.

jilyd: Escuse the spelling. Heinlein.

siannon secundus: Oh lor' is that geek stuff?

AGlusone: Hi, Chris, welcome

Engr Bohn: hi

KultsiKN: I'm nicked Kultsi in real life as well, and I hail from Finland.

siannon secundus: I know who *you are, dear *g

Musiquelle26: <--Steph

AGlusone: as soon as Filly's back, I'll propose a first toast

jilyd: No, it is a bulletin board from the days before the internet was easily accessible to us mere mortals.

AlanMacro has entered the room.

AGlusone: Good evening Alan

aggirlj: Hi Alan.

OscagneTX: Can anyone tell me how to log in AIM?

jilyd: Hi, Alan, good to meet you.

AlanMacro: Hi, never been here before, wanted to check it out

KultsiKN: Many here I meet the first time.

LanaiHoward has entered the room.

DavidWrightSr has entered the room.

siannon secundus: (Dee) that's geek to me *g

OscagneTX: howdy, H, D.

jilyd: I think you dust do a copy and paste to a word processing document.

OscagneTX: ah

AGlusone: You're on an IBM machine. Fraid I cannot tell you how to log. I suspect, Cntl-A, Cntl-C, and Cntl-P will work. Evenin' Howard.

CHASGRAFT: We visited Chuck and Linda (Coffin) earlier this week.

AGlusone: I suspect you'll emailed them, Charlie?

BJ Maranta: back

georule1861: I emailed Doc this morning, but it is a work account so he may not see it until tomorrow. Unless someone called him.

Musiquelle26: My pop had prior commitments, but sends his deep regrets (ACVickers)

LanaiHoward: Hi all. Feline contingent also present giving their respects.

jilyd: Yep, Os, that worked.

AGlusone: Tell Tony we'll miss him.

AGlusone: I have a stolen toast: "Here's to the grandest old bag in twenty universes!" (thanks to Geo Rule).

Engr Bohn: To save chat messages to a file:

Dehede011: Hear, Hear

aggirlj: Here, here.

georule1861: Salud!

Engr Bohn: 1With your chat messages still on your screen in the Chat Room window, select the File menu, and click Save.The Save Text to File window opens.

jilyd: Do you have an e-mail addy? They should be told.

BJ Maranta: Hear Hear

Lucylou98 has left the room.

Engr Bohn: 2Enter a name for the file in the File name field

CHASGRAFT: Yes, we have been in E-Mail contact. Mostly with Linda. But it was good seeing them both.

DavidWrightSr: Click on File and Save as.

DrRufosGlory: Hear, Hear !!

OscagneTX: afk

QinJingYou: hear hear!!

Engr Bohn: 3In the Save as type field, select Text Only if you want to save just the text of the messages.

georule1861: I'm not sure what she would have thought of that toast, David, but it came from a good place.

Engr Bohn: 4Click Save to save the messages that appear in the upper pane of the Chat Room window.

jilyd: Oh, Aye.

AGlusone: I think she'd have loved it.

aggirlj: I think she would have seconded it.

Engr Bohn: hear, hear

BJ Maranta: I'm sure she would have seen the love with which it was intended

siannon secundus: Slainte - she would have, indeed

LanaiHoward: While we steal from Glory Road, let me offer an observation and a toast...Oscar observed that all military bureaucracies have a terribly-hard-to-find Fairy Godmother Department....

LanaiHoward: While RAH may have been the master..........To the Fairy Godmother....

Engr Bohn: to the Fairy Godmother

jilyd: To the Fairy Godmother. <clink>

siannon secundus: *clink*

BJ Maranta: *clink*

DrRufosGlory: to the Fairy Godmother <clink>

QinJingYou: clink

siannon secundus: To the Fairy Godmother

DavidWrightSr: Hear! Hear!

Dehede011: Here is looking at you

jilyd: Funny you mention the love. A couple of us talked about it earlier today. I don;t think Ginny ever quite believed how many people loved her as Ginny.

Musiquelle26: Clink

aggirlj: Clink.

OscagneTX: b

AlanMacro: <clink>

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KultsiKN: To the Fairy Godmother!

AGlusone: If you all don't mind, why don't we go round table ... any sentiment, remembrance ... reverse alpha for a change? Hear, hear, again. WJake? Evenin' Bill

jilyd: We told her, but it always seemed to come as a surprise.

DennEditor: Good evening all.

Dehede011: To a real Southern Gentlewoman from NYC

jilyd: <clink>

AGlusone: or just hop in ... really doesn't matter

WJaKe: Hi all, I never met Mrs. Heinlein, I sure wish I'd had the great pleasure.

CHASGRAFT: Linda is dragonlady9825@yahoo.com.

BJ Maranta: *clink*

OscagneTX: <clink>

DennEditor: <clink>

Dehede011: clink

aggirlj: clink

CHASGRAFT: Chuck is cfcoffin@stlnet.com -- but that may not be current.

Engr Bohn: clink

siannon secundus: To the woman who taught me what Robert meant, even better than Robert himself did

georule1861: But I think she does it at work, Charlie. No reason not to send tho.

Musiquelle26: clink

aggirlj: clink

CHASGRAFT: clink**

KultsiKN: clink

BJ Maranta: So true, Jani; *clink*

AGlusone: so do so many of us ... kept hoping she'd be feeling recovered enough for visitors this summer.

LanaiHoward: clink...and especially appropriate for Southern Manhattan. Had she (or Robert) been there on 9/11, they would have been strong, doing the necessary, and seeking no glory

aggirlj: double clink.

DennEditor: Is there a limit to how many people can enter this chatroom?

aggirlj: I don't think so.

AGlusone: we're about to find out ...

BJ Maranta: If there is, I'm sure we'll find it

CHASGRAFT: Most chat rooms are 23

OscagneTX: how do we know we haven't already?

aggirlj: we're at 21

BPRAL22169 has entered the room.

aggirlj: ah 22

aggirlj: Hi Bill.

OscagneTX: howdy

AGlusone: G'evenin' Bill

WJaKe: Hey Bill!

QinJingYou: Hi Bill

Dehede011: Howdy Bill

BPRAL22169: Hello --

BJ Maranta: Welcome, Bill

aggirlj: How will we know were at limit?

BPRAL22169: Quite a crowd in here. does the Lanai have the same room size limitations?

Dehede011: Hey Bill, you are the biographer tell us a story that we haven't heard?

JNEILSCHUL: Hi, Bill. Here per your notice.

DennEditor: we were just debating that, Bill

siannon secundus: Hi Bill

georule1861: I spent a little time with 13 yr old Ginny this morning after I heard. 1930 census. Guess we all deal with grief differently. I did what I do --research.

OscagneTX: I'd love to hear a story.

BPRAL22169: Good to see you, Neil. People, Neil has just published the first book in which Heinlein appears as a major character.

aggirlj: Me too.

Dehede011: Tell us the title Neil

BPRAL22169: Let me think a bit about an anecdote.

Dehede011: Yes, take time and make it a good one

BPRAL22169: I'm going to look at my notes a bit. brb

jilyd: One time Ginny and Nuke and I were chatting. Got to talking about a porblem he was having with something he was writing. Well, at that point, Ginny and Nuke talked, and I listened, because I'm no writer.

jilyd: Ginny reminisced about Robert writing Space Cadet, and hitting a wall on the ending. She says he laid on the sofa groaning for two weeks. Picture that! <g>

BJ Maranta: <G>

OscagneTX: hehe

DennEditor: I know many of the people in here through alt.fan.heinlein. Can folks ID themselves?

Dehede011: Yes

jilyd: And they really needed the money, at the time, too. So she was considering getting a job. Robert told her, "Don't be silly. That is a dirty word."

aggirlj: <-----Jane

DennEditor: <--------- Bill Dennis

OscagneTX: hehe

BJ Maranta: <-=-=- Brian

Musiquelle26: <---Steph

jilyd: I could "hear" the love in the pixels when she told that story.

siannon secundus: Siannon is Jani, comsultant barwench

Engr Bohn: <---------- chris

JNEILSCHUL: My this moves fast here! The title of my book in which Heinlein is a character is "Escape From Heaven."

DennEditor: "job" has been a dirty word for me recently as well.

OscagneTX: <- Oscagne, High Priest of Skeptics and Cynics (currently off duty)

Dehede011: <----- Ron or De as you wish

BPRAL22169: Back. I've got two in mind. During her long illness in Colorado Springs, she was frequently hospitalized. This is from a letter to a friend, Bill Corson:

KultsiKN: <--- Kullervo Nurmi

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BPRAL22169: Once I had a cocktail party while I was sojourning at Penrose Hosp. in Colo. Spgs. A friend brought in a large jar of Martinis, and then in the afternoon, a whole group dropped by.

QinJingYou: <- djinn/Dave

Dehede011: Publishing date??

LanaiHoward: <--Howard Berkowitz

BPRAL22169: So we all got glasses and drank Martinis, carefully closing the door first. Some of them were doctor's wives, so the nurses overlooked it, although there must have been some aroma to the room afterwards!'

AlanMacro: Alan Barasch http://www.barasch.com/tools/lazaruslong.htm

AGlusone: Hi, JJ, welcome. LTNC

OscagneTX: hehe

siannon secundus: Hi Dave, didn't realise it was you

aggirlj: Wonderful.

jilyd: And I'm Dee. Try not to coonfuse me with De. Different genders. :)

aggirlj: Here's a Dirty Martini for Ginny.

LanaiHoward: BPRAL, by any chance Col. Corson, USMC?

JNEILSCHUL: Escape From Heaven is already out. Look on Amazon, Barnesandnoble.com,etc. I think the cheapest price is on Walmart.com or Buy.com.

JJ Brannon: Hi, all.

BJ Maranta: Hear hear, Jane!

BPRAL22169: LucyLou just signed on AOL -- do you think she knows about this?

AGlusone: You missed the first toast ... or so. So ... feel free to propose the next one JJ.

JNEILSCHUL: Or, if anyone here wants a free PDF copy, let me know.

OscagneTX: I loved the stories RAH told about her in Tramp.

jilyd: BPRAL=Pill Patterson, Heinlein biographer.

Dehede011: Thanks Neil, I usually ask for fast

Dehede011: She was here

DennEditor: we are at 23 pople in here now ....

DrRufosGlory: Ladies & Gentlemen, if you please: I give you: Robert Heinlein's inspiration in so many, many ways: Virginia Heinlein!

jilyd: Sorry, Bill, make that Bill Patterson. You are not a "pill."

BJ Maranta: *Clink*

LanaiHoward: hear hear!

Engr Bohn: clink

aggirlj: If anyone gets a plea to get in here I can bail, I'm pretty new at this and don't have any anecdotes so let me know.

AGlusone: Hear, hear ...

Dehede011: hear, hear

JJ Brannon: clink

DavidWrightSr: *clink*

Musiquelle26: clink

SubCrid Death: *clink*

siannon secundus: *clink* To the Muse!

JNEILSCHUL: huzzah

jilyd: <clink>

KultsiKN: Neil, I take you on that offer

WJaKe: the muse to the master! clink

DennEditor: <----- throwing empty shot glasss against fireplace.

KultsiKN: clink

OscagneTX: Me too, Neil.

Engr Bohn: clink

aggirlj: clink

Reilloc has entered the room.

QinJingYou: clink to inspiration

OscagneTX: *clink*

aggirlj: So far so good.

AGlusone: Hi, LN, welcome

jilyd: Me, too, Neil, but it won;t keep me from buying a portable copy.

DennEditor: well. that answers the question. 23 is no limit.

BPRAL22169: This next one is kind of longish

jilyd: Hi, LN.

aggirlj: Go for it.

Musiquelle26: The Lady of the well-turned title phrase, perhaps?

OscagneTX: Too many of those and I'll be under the lanai. I've naught but vodka to toast.

jilyd: We'll wait.

Reilloc: Hi, Dee

Dehede011: We just hit 24 people aboard

Lucylou98 has entered the room.

Musiquelle26: 25

AGlusone: I think we can get around 50 ... but we'll find out. Had about that for a guest chat. Evenin' Lisa

aggirlj: Hi Lisa.

Dehede011: Hi Lisa

Lucylou98: Hello again everyone

Reilloc: Hi, Dave

BPRAL22169: Ok. At the worldcon in 1961 (Seattle?), Karen Anderson was refused admission to the hotel restaurant because she was not properly dressed. Robert sent the following anecdote in a discussion of such matters:

Dehede011: ga

BPRAL22169: "Once we were about to take some Cantonese friends to dinner at the famous old Raffles --when I suddenly had a worry:

OscagneTX: my cat doesn't like vodka.

BPRAL22169: 'Say, hon, I don't recall having seen any orientals in the dining room -- is this joint still 'pukka-sahib' and all that crap? We don't' want to embarrass Mr. and Mrs. Ho.

BPRAL22169: "Ginny went right on dressing. 'Don't give it a thought.'

BPRAL22169: "'If they try to keep our guests out of the dining room, we then go straight to the front desk and check out -- and once our luggage is outside, we set fire to the place.'

OscagneTX: hahh

Musiquelle26: My friends, I must depart, I have hostess duties to perform now.

aggirlj: Right on, hear hear.

BJ Maranta: LOL <